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Christians call a Jewish man "the only son of God"

This doesn't strike anyone as odd?
cabal
  02/16/22
https://i.imgur.com/Ig3mcPo.jpg keeps the goyim from mass...
,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,,,;,.,;
  02/21/22
just loling @ christmos
AZNgirl crying in Kiev waiting for RussianHandsome
  02/16/22
It's so creepy once you see the hypocrisy
cabal
  02/16/22
...
'''"'''"'''"'
  02/16/22
Jesus isn't jewish, hth kike.
animeboi
  02/16/22
Oh I assure you he was 100% pure blooded kike, friendo
cabal
  02/16/22
God placed Him in Mary's womb, his genetic material is not o...
animeboi
  02/16/22
Lmfao. I fucking hate science!
cabal
  02/16/22
we know
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  02/16/22
oh DAMN, anti CHRISTMOS done now!!!
AZNgirl crying in Kiev waiting for RussianHandsome
  02/16/22
...
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  02/16/22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostatic_union
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  02/17/22
modern jews would have seen the non-pharisee israelites of t...

  02/16/22
Jesus was a jew lmao
cabal
  02/16/22
He was taking over and making himself the center of the worl...
,..,...,..,.,.,:.,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,..
  02/16/22
Zuckerchrist lmao
cabal
  02/16/22
read the bible
yes and
  02/16/22
yeah in the bible, jesus constantly inveighs against the pha...

  02/16/22
theyre all jews. idg why is this hard to understand
yes and
  02/16/22
*pagan picks one side a Jewish religious fight then claims h...
cabal
  02/16/22
rabbinical jews basically invented a new religion and gave i...

  02/16/22
The critical piece is your religion was written by jews abou...
cabal
  02/16/22
jews are a tribe you dumb fuck. genetics determines what a j...
yes and
  02/16/22
ashkenazi jews have little genetically in common with 1st-ce...

  02/16/22
DESCRIBE your biological relationship to ancient jews
cabal
  02/16/22
lol why are you narrowing it to just Ashkenazi now? you real...
yes and
  02/16/22
you're being intentionally obtuse. bye!

  02/16/22
cr. Jesus was most likely an Essene. We can say that based s...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
flame. you dont really think he existed, right?
yes and
  02/16/22
His existence is better attested to than the existence of al...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
I also don't think any discussion of the historocity of Jesu...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Lol his existence is not better attested to than other men o...
Doggy Suicide
  02/21/22
It depends on what you mean by "better." Many of o...
NSAM 57
  02/21/22
was mary jewish? fatherhood is a myth
.,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,
  02/16/22
of course. christ recalls his lineage to david through her i...
yes and
  02/16/22
Lmfao
cabal
  02/16/22
The Apostolic Fathers were MAF about this, believe me. Most ...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
The new Testament is a Jewish text
cabal
  02/16/22
Some of it is. In any case it was written in Greek.
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Every word was written by biologically Jewish hands
cabal
  02/16/22
The only thing we know for certain about the authors is that...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Lmfao. So the ancient jewish anthropology PhDs were doing a ...
cabal
  02/16/22
You don't know who the actual authors are. Do you actually t...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Jesus fucking christ lmao
cabal
  02/16/22
Who do you think wrote the gospels?
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Christianity is a branch of Judaism that centers on the wors...
cabal
  02/16/22
I wouldn't have asked the question if I thought you could an...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
No one can answer your red herring. The fact is you worship ...
cabal
  02/16/22
Thank you for confirming that we have no fucking idea who wr...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Thank you for confirming that youre jewish
cabal
  02/16/22
Brother, there is no more reliable evidence and no better ac...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
youre romanticizing barbaric participation mystique and unde...
cabal
  02/16/22
I may be doing the former but not the latter. Not in the lea...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
are you asking me why there arent more gospels about jews wh...
cabal
  02/16/22
I'm saying presumably this judeo-greccan literati left behin...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
or your literati cabal is bullshit?
cabal
  02/16/22
In order for that to be true, the gospels had to have been w...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
I was told Mark was written as early as AD 70
Pumonymous
  02/16/22
Maybe but it was written by an independent and objective phi...
cabal
  02/16/22
A lot of people become Christians later in life, after obtai...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
wtf are you smoking
potluck
  02/16/22
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
good to know that “apostolic fathers” now refers...
potluck
  02/16/22
I'm not religious and I have no formal education in this are...
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
not so odd when you consider there was no such thing as a ch...
"''"'''"""'''
  02/16/22
Lol brand it however you want, your entire holy book was wri...
cabal
  02/16/22
I didn’t think this was in dispute
"''"'''"""'''
  02/16/22
Lol kike
cabal
  02/16/22
new poster first day
yes and
  02/16/22
What about John the Baptist?
NSAM 57
  02/16/22
Go away mig
guy who gets it
  02/16/22
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Your understanding of Christian Theology is lacking. Please...
An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school
  02/16/22
OP, do you have any competing religion to endorse? Or will y...
.,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,
  02/16/22
Are these my only options
cabal
  02/16/22
you tell me, brother. just trying to hear a view on, if not...
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Radical naturalism
cabal
  02/16/22
...
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and they go on to murder all jews they can get a hold of aft...
\'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"
  02/16/22
Hebrew actually. Jewish identity is spiritual sonship - sons...
very stable genius!
  02/16/22
youve gone full retard
cabal
  02/16/22
hey man
very stable genius!
  02/16/22
Hmm I wonder if there are any substantive differences betwee...
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  02/16/22
why do you worship a dead jew lmao
cabal
  02/16/22
its pretty CR actually
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  02/16/22
dead jew worship is cr?
cabal
  02/16/22
ofc i wouldnt expect someone with a reddit-tier understa...
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
so your opinion is worshipping a dead jew is credited? and y...
cabal
  02/16/22
again, this is reddit-tier thinking and a 75-85 IQ understan...
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
are you saying you don't worship a dead jew? or do you, via ...
cabal
  02/16/22
i'm saying that the "dead jew" line of criticism i...
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
you worship a dead jew
cabal
  02/16/22
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/666/148/6e...
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
i dont want to look at pictures of the dead jew you worship ...
cabal
  02/16/22
Date: February 16th, 2022 5:34 PM Author: cabal im going...
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033589&mc=1...
cabal
  02/16/22
lol ur fuming
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
you worship a dead jew who you think did magic
cabal
  02/16/22
you seem oddly invested in this lie
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
, the guy who is oddly invested in lies about a dead jew add...
cabal
  02/16/22
go on, poast it again, saul, 200th times the charm!
----{,_,">
  02/16/22
you worship a dead jew you think is magic
cabal
  02/16/22
Why are you so obsessed with this idea that every non-Christ...
Pumonymous
  02/16/22
Surely, you know that Jews are highly overrepresented in law...
----{,_,">
  02/17/22
Just go to 100
cabal
  02/16/22
Faggit jfc
cabal
  02/16/22
thread
secutor
  02/16/22
...
cabal
  02/20/22
PS we have more (and better) evidence Jesus existed than Soc...
NSAM 57
  02/20/22
oh well if he was a human then it follows naturally that he ...
cabal
  02/20/22
Brother it's intriguing as fuck to try to figure out who Jes...
NSAM 57
  02/20/22
I appreciate your thoroughness but this seems like a lot of ...
cabal
  02/21/22
i dont think socrates existed either
yes and
  02/21/22
His teachings are probably more important than his ethnic ba...
LAW AND ECONOMY RESTORED
  02/21/22
Probably neither
cabal
  02/21/22


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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:19 AM
Author: cabal

This doesn't strike anyone as odd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976553)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 10:32 AM
Author: ,.,;,;,.;,.;,.;,,,,;,.,;

https://i.imgur.com/Ig3mcPo.jpg

keeps the goyim from massacring the vermin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44003146)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:20 AM
Author: AZNgirl crying in Kiev waiting for RussianHandsome

just loling @ christmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976558)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:22 AM
Author: cabal

It's so creepy once you see the hypocrisy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976568)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:04 PM
Author: '''"'''"'''"'



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43978803)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:20 AM
Author: animeboi (.)

Jesus isn't jewish, hth kike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976559)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:20 AM
Author: cabal

Oh I assure you he was 100% pure blooded kike, friendo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976561)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: animeboi (.)

God placed Him in Mary's womb, his genetic material is not of Mary and is not jewish. Read your Bible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976584)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: cabal

Lmfao. I fucking hate science!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976599)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:29 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


we know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43978961)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:47 AM
Author: AZNgirl crying in Kiev waiting for RussianHandsome

oh DAMN, anti CHRISTMOS done now!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976723)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 11:59 AM
Author: .,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977102)



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Date: February 17th, 2022 9:12 AM
Author: ..........,.....,.,.....,........,.,,.....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostatic_union

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43982169)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:47 AM
Author: 

modern jews would have seen the non-pharisee israelites of the 1st century as apostates and non-Jews. they don't recognize the samaritans or karaites as real jews, for instance. rabbinical jews basically invented a new religion with a new holy book (Talmud) and gave it the same name as the old one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_Judaism#Karaism_in_Rabbinic_Jewish_opinion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976726)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:48 AM
Author: cabal

Jesus was a jew lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43976728)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:08 PM
Author: ,..,...,..,.,.,:.,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,..


He was taking over and making himself the center of the world just like Jews do. The Zuckerberg of 2000 years ago, except he figured out how to fool others into thinking he could do miracles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977157)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: cabal

Zuckerchrist lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977200)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:04 PM
Author: yes and

read the bible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977132)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:13 PM
Author: 

yeah in the bible, jesus constantly inveighs against the pharisees (ideological ancestors of modern rabbinical jews)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977185)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:25 PM
Author: yes and

theyre all jews. idg why is this hard to understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977246)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:25 PM
Author: cabal

*pagan picks one side a Jewish religious fight then claims his side isn't jewish* lmao

*reads ethnic heritage of both sides unironically, calling it "infallible"*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977248)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:27 PM
Author: 

rabbinical jews basically invented a new religion and gave it the same name as the old one. idg why is this hard to understand



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977258)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:27 PM
Author: cabal

The critical piece is your religion was written by jews about a jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977263)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:28 PM
Author: yes and

jews are a tribe you dumb fuck. genetics determines what a jew is and nothing else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977265)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:32 PM
Author: 

ashkenazi jews have little genetically in common with 1st-century canaanites you dumb fuck. 2,000 years of genetic drift accelerated by a severe genetic bottleneck event in the Middle Ages and extremely high rates of intermarriage that annihilated almost all Canaanite mtDNA traces in Ashkenazi jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977294)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:34 PM
Author: cabal

DESCRIBE your biological relationship to ancient jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977309)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 1:32 PM
Author: yes and

lol why are you narrowing it to just Ashkenazi now? you really are a fucking retard holy shit lol. no wonder you actually believe this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977597)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 2:12 PM
Author: 

you're being intentionally obtuse. bye!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977849)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:32 PM
Author: NSAM 57

cr. Jesus was most likely an Essene. We can say that based solely on the synchronicity between his teachings and what the Essenes believed. The Dead Sea Scrolls suffer from being overhyped before they were widely read, but now that we've had a good long time to digest them, they really do offer some illuminating insights into how jews think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977293)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: yes and

flame. you dont really think he existed, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977607)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:37 PM
Author: NSAM 57

His existence is better attested to than the existence of almost any other man of his era. That said, the oldest attestation we had was written over a half century after Jesus would have died.

So any historical account we have of jesus today comes from these written attestations that appear to have had wholly different authors writing about different aspects of a man's life from different perspectives. All of the attestations are quirky in their own way, and they betray their authors' biases in certain ways at times.

But there are also points where they agree. For example, they all agree that this nigga told a man that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Multiple people, coming writing at totally different times, coming at this from multiple perspectives, all attest that this nigga said that. So you have that to deal with.

Then you have what textual critics call the Criterion of Embarrassment. This follows from the same logic that makes statements against legal/pecuniary interest admissible hearsay exceptions: the person wouldn't have said that shit if it wasn't true. So for example, when Jesus disowns his mom in Mark, that's not something you put in there if you were inventing a story about a fictional character who's mom is literally the virgin Mary. The same is true with the story that this shorty was born in NAZARETH. Nazareth was like the Arkansas of its time, not a place where KANGZ is supposed to be born, which is why they had to invent this absurd story about a census that requires you to travel to the place where your ancestors lived centuries ago. If they were inventing the whole character of Jesus from whole cloth, they would have made it MUCH easier to trace his lineage to King David.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979022)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:46 PM
Author: NSAM 57

I also don't think any discussion of the historocity of Jesus is possible without reading the Gospel of Thomas. Not because GoT is "truthful" in any of its descriptions of Jesus, but because even if it is 100% lies, it shows the lengths people were going through to twist the story of this one man. Why would the authors of the Gospel of Thomas have even bothered to write the Gospel of Thomas if Jesus himself didn't actually exist? Otherwise it makes about as much sense as a Hindu sitting down today, writing a about some Mormon figure, and connecting him to Hindu tradition somehow, even though the Mormon dood never even lived. If you find a book where 2000 years ago, some hindus talked about a Mormon dood, wouldn't that support the Mormons' claim that this dood existed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979078)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 12:57 AM
Author: Doggy Suicide

Lol his existence is not better attested to than other men of his era in actual historical documents from his actual existence, like the Roman emperors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001760)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 1:31 AM
Author: NSAM 57

It depends on what you mean by "better." Many of our OLDEST manuscripts of some of those documents are from the 19th century. In fact most of our oldest manuscripts of many great ancient works were created post-renaissance. You don't know how many times a book got stepped on over 2000 years, but given all the shit that happened in between you can be some things got tweaked along the way.

Furthermore, the number of such manuscripts is virtually nothing for most of these works. We have like 800 bible manuscripts at maybe 6 of the Republic, which I think is #2 or something for most manuscripts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001892)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: .,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,

was mary jewish? fatherhood is a myth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977112)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:03 PM
Author: yes and

of course. christ recalls his lineage to david through her in the book of matthew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977126)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:08 PM
Author: cabal

Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977158)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:26 PM
Author: NSAM 57

The Apostolic Fathers were MAF about this, believe me. Most early christians would have known nothing about the Hebrew bible, and its inclusion in the canon was controversial at the time. It always amuses me to hear southern baptists hootin and hollerin about old testament figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977253)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:30 PM
Author: cabal

The new Testament is a Jewish text

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977281)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:32 PM
Author: NSAM 57

Some of it is. In any case it was written in Greek.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977295)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:33 PM
Author: cabal

Every word was written by biologically Jewish hands

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977302)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:39 PM
Author: NSAM 57

The only thing we know for certain about the authors is that they were highly trained in Greek composition. They were the equivalent of modern day anthropology PhDs. Ancient Greek scholars claim certain phrases they use reflect deep familiarity with the classics. Some were certainly fixated on establishing Jesus' bona fides as a Jew, but it still could have been the case that the gospels were written by scholars attempting to document an oral tradition preserved by Jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977339)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:40 PM
Author: cabal

Lmfao. So the ancient jewish anthropology PhDs were doing a study and didn't believe anything they wrote? Paul the jew from tarsus was just a philologist? Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977345)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:43 PM
Author: NSAM 57

You don't know who the actual authors are. Do you actually think some guy named Luke followed Jesus around, then sat down and wrote a memoir in highly fluent Greek?

The earliest date any one can plausibly put forth for the authorship of the earliest gospel is ~60 years after Jesus died. Imagine being told to write a biography of LBJ today, without making reference to any other historical source about LBJ. That's what the authors of the gospel were doing. They could have easily been educated pagans who converted to Christianity and devoted themselves to making an academic study of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977367)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:44 PM
Author: cabal

Jesus fucking christ lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977372)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:45 PM
Author: NSAM 57

Who do you think wrote the gospels?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977377)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: cabal

Christianity is a branch of Judaism that centers on the worship of a Jewish man as God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977387)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:47 PM
Author: NSAM 57

I wouldn't have asked the question if I thought you could answer it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977390)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:48 PM
Author: cabal

No one can answer your red herring. The fact is you worship a dead jew in a religion that originated within Judaism. You are a jew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977399)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:48 PM
Author: NSAM 57

Thank you for confirming that we have no fucking idea who wrote the gospels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977400)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:49 PM
Author: cabal

Thank you for confirming that youre jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977406)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:59 PM
Author: NSAM 57

Brother, there is no more reliable evidence and no better account of this man's existence than these books. Aside from these gospels there is zero reason to think this man even existed.

On the other hand, we can infer from the very fact that these books exist, that Jesus existed and was an influential figure in his own lifetime. Only someone who truly left a mark on people would have inspired these books to have been written about him a good 60-250 years after he died. You try having that kind of impact on people.

By the time these books were written, this man had a very large following. I mean people who never knew this dude, never saw the bible (because it hadn't been written), were getting together and doing all kinds of sick ritualistic shit in service of this one guy. This got so big that these literate doods who couldn't just write Greek, but could write very very well in Greek, sat down and did their best to write it all down. We don't know who they were, or for whom they were writing. They could have been the ancient equivalent of McKinsey consultants.

We KNOW it isn't like these doods named John, Mark, Matthew and Luke were all pals of Jesus, and after he died they all wrote their memoirs and passed them on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979130)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:03 PM
Author: cabal

youre romanticizing barbaric participation mystique and under estimating the number of jews who could write in greek. take a cold shower and let your boner come down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979144)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:06 PM
Author: NSAM 57

I may be doing the former but not the latter. Not in the least. Because even if there were literate as fuck-in-Greek jews everywhere back then, where are their gospels today? Why did anyone only want copies of the gospels about this one man? And for that matter why aren't there any gospels calling flame on these gospels?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979159)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:11 PM
Author: cabal

are you asking me why there arent more gospels about jews who could write in greek? my understanding is there are 0 of those.

if youre asking me why some people wrote love letters to a dead jew, its probably because they were barbaric retards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979175)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:20 PM
Author: NSAM 57

I'm saying presumably this judeo-greccan literati left behind some other legacy of itself. There must be some other works we can name. Other authors at least. Surely their entire intellectual legacy does not consist of 3-4 books written about the same figure but from orthogonal perspectives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979232)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:21 PM
Author: cabal

or your literati cabal is bullshit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979242)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:26 PM
Author: NSAM 57

In order for that to be true, the gospels had to have been written much earlier than the earliest known copies we have. There are other textual clues that they were written much later in time because they allude to events that occurred long after Jesus could have lived. I think you have to contend with the fact that on multiple occasions, decades if not centuries apart from each other, someone saw fit to write one of these things. They weren't all written close in time to each other. This indicates a very large movement was happening independent of the gospels themselves. It's like someone in 2022 writing a treatise on someone no one has written about since 1962.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979272)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 8:44 PM
Author: Pumonymous

I was told Mark was written as early as AD 70

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980071)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: cabal

Maybe but it was written by an independent and objective philologist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980113)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: NSAM 57

A lot of people become Christians later in life, after obtaining a secular education. One of Christianity's hallmarks at the time was its openness to literally anyone at any time. Roman slaves and all the assorted mongrels throughout the empire could participate in it. It seems totally plausible that over the period of time it took for the gospels to be written, random geeks and autists became converted. If they could write persuasively, in a manner that drew the reader in, that would have been of obvious value to an underground sect seeking legitimacy.

Any one person with the talent and skill to write these gospels would have been expected to be in the service of elites, one way or another. It's very far fetched to think early churches could have commissioned this sort of thing, and it's also hard to imagine that someone capable of writing Mark in 70AD would have spent his entire adult life as a Christian.

Finally, why isn't there ANYTHING about this recorded in Jewish texts of any sort? Why were all of the gospels written in Greek?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980673)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:31 PM
Author: potluck

wtf are you smoking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977292)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:35 PM
Author: NSAM 57

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977313)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:46 PM
Author: potluck

good to know that “apostolic fathers” now refers to Marcion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977389)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: NSAM 57

I'm not religious and I have no formal education in this area. Cut me some slack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977419)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:29 PM
Author: "''"'''"""'''

not so odd when you consider there was no such thing as a christian prior to Jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977277)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:31 PM
Author: cabal

Lol brand it however you want, your entire holy book was written by the hands of biological jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977287)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:39 PM
Author: "''"'''"""'''

I didn’t think this was in dispute

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977342)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:40 PM
Author: cabal

Lol kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977348)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: yes and

new poster first day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977520)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:25 PM
Author: NSAM 57

What about John the Baptist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43978923)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 12:36 PM
Author: guy who gets it (Cowshit disciple #1)

Go away mig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977317)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:51 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979098)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 1:34 PM
Author: An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school

Your understanding of Christian Theology is lacking. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977608)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 1:35 PM
Author: .,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,

OP, do you have any competing religion to endorse? Or will you argue for atheism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977615)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 2:05 PM
Author: cabal

Are these my only options

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977822)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 2:09 PM
Author: .,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,

you tell me, brother. just trying to hear a view on, if not christianity, then what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977839)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 2:11 PM
Author: cabal

Radical naturalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43977845)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:36 PM
Author: .,.,..;.;..,;,..,.,;.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979350)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:52 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

and they go on to murder all jews they can get a hold of afterwards. weird shit, religion seems like a low IQ schtick that never ends. and like the big 3 all believe in the same god, some faggot narcissist out there with magical places in the "afterlife" and whatnot. really baffling that grown ups fall for this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979106)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:53 PM
Author: very stable genius! (🐾👣)

Hebrew actually. Jewish identity is spiritual sonship - sons of Satan. Jesus is not the son of Satan, therefore Jesus is not a jew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979108)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:03 PM
Author: cabal

youve gone full retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979149)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:08 PM
Author: very stable genius! (🐾👣)

hey man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979165)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 5:55 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

Hmm I wonder if there are any substantive differences between the Son of Man and Saul Goldberg, OP of this thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979111)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:04 PM
Author: cabal

why do you worship a dead jew lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979152)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:05 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

its pretty CR actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979157)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:06 PM
Author: cabal

dead jew worship is cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979160)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:09 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

ofc

i wouldnt expect someone with a reddit-tier understanding of Christianity to be able to meaningfully understand this, though



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979167)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:12 PM
Author: cabal

so your opinion is worshipping a dead jew is credited? and your defense is if i only UNDERSTOOD the dead jew better, than i would worship him (i.e., the dead jew)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979181)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:16 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

again, this is reddit-tier thinking and a 75-85 IQ understanding of Christianity, although it is 180 that youre still fuming about THE MESSIAH 2000 years later

do better, saul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979205)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:18 PM
Author: cabal

are you saying you don't worship a dead jew? or do you, via your high iq, go back in time and switch the genetics of your jewish savior, who you worship (even though he is both dead and jewish)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979220)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:26 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

i'm saying that the "dead jew" line of criticism is low IQ and is the first thing a reddit atheist reaches for. i imagine they think is an epic "pwn" of Christian theology. you really seem to think it gets Christians goat - Jesus, a dead Jew? I'm fuming now! - where in reality it signals youre a low IQ moron who doesnt know anything about the religion other than a /r/atheism meme. talking about genetics re: God just further confirms youre quite retarded

i roughly imagine you as this (youre on the left):

https://postimg.cc/gLqBxVd2

protip: Jesus is neither dead nor "Jewish" in the same sense you are, saul, kinda the whole point of the religion lmao



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979278)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:28 PM
Author: cabal

you worship a dead jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979289)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:29 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/666/148/6ee.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979299)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:30 PM
Author: cabal

i dont want to look at pictures of the dead jew you worship lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979300)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:32 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

Date: February 16th, 2022 5:34 PM

Author: cabal

im going to kill myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033545&forum_id=2#43978991)

why wait? PROVE me wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979316)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:32 PM
Author: cabal

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033589&mc=1&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979318)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:33 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

lol ur fuming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979322)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:34 PM
Author: cabal

you worship a dead jew who you think did magic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979328)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:35 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

you seem oddly invested in this lie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979338)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:35 PM
Author: cabal

, the guy who is oddly invested in lies about a dead jew added

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979343)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:36 PM
Author: ----{,_,">

go on, poast it again, saul, 200th times the charm!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979348)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 6:37 PM
Author: cabal

you worship a dead jew you think is magic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43979353)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 11:37 PM
Author: Pumonymous

Why are you so obsessed with this idea that every non-Christian is a Jew? There are only 20 million Jews on the planet and 5.5 billion non-Christian goyim, champ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980998)



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Date: February 17th, 2022 5:35 AM
Author: ----{,_,">

Surely, you know that Jews are highly overrepresented in law in general and on this august forum in particular. Seething, insane hatred of Christianity is a super Jewsish tell.

Do I really know if this d00d is ethnically Jewish? No, but he's certainly acting like a big yid. The idea is to draw a a distinction between Jesus's historical status as a Jew and what modern Jewishness entails.

I am sorry I got you and Postradumbass confused in that other thread and called you one of the worst poasters here. That was my mistake. You're a pretty CR poaster on most stuff. You see the insanity of modern shitliberalism and I respect that. Wish you weren't an atheist but I can let bygones be bygones on these squabbles we've had.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43981769)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:34 PM
Author: cabal

Just go to 100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980610)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:34 PM
Author: cabal

Faggit jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980611)



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Date: February 16th, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: secutor

thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#43980678)



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Date: February 20th, 2022 9:59 PM
Author: cabal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001059)



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Date: February 20th, 2022 10:02 PM
Author: NSAM 57

PS we have more (and better) evidence Jesus existed than Socrates, LOL@ lolyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001078)



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Date: February 20th, 2022 10:03 PM
Author: cabal

oh well if he was a human then it follows naturally that he was "god" lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001082)



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Date: February 20th, 2022 10:28 PM
Author: NSAM 57

Brother it's intriguing as fuck to try to figure out who Jesus really was and what went down. I think any lolyer can appreciate the thinking that goes into textual criticism.

First, let's start with the "agreed upon facts" as it were. You might think that's hard to do but it's not. Here are some facts:

1. The nigga was born in Nazareth. We know that because no one would make it up (criterion of embarassment). Also, it satisfies the criterion of multiple attestation, because it appears in multiple gospels with different source material.

2. The nigga thought you had to be broke af to enter the kingdom of God. The story of the rich young ruler satisfies both of the above criteria. In addition, it satisfies the criterion of embarassment: it cuts against official church doctrine, and the church has had to do a lot of tap dancing over the centuries when people ask about it.

3. Nigga had 12 followers and was called king of the jews. We don't know why they put that on the cross, but it satisfies all of the above listed criteria (incl. criterion of embarassment. I'll return to this in a bit.

4. Nigga was crucified. Satisfies all the above listed criteria (and yes, incl. criterion of embarassment).

5. If we didn't multiple attestation but go with strict criterion of embarassment, there's a lot of other embarassing stuff that pops up, like Jesus giving his mom the cold shoulder and admitting that people in his home town think he's crazy. Also, there's nothing in the text to indicate that Jesus thought judgment day was some far off remote event that could occur at any time in the next 10k years. He can be much more plausibly read to being telling his followers that judgment day is coming soon. You need to hurry up and ditch all your money and your belongings NOW.

From this we can surmise a few things:

A. Jesus was almost certainly some sort of commie who was against property ownership. The thing everyone remembers about this nigga more than anything is that he was from nowhere, was broke af and didn't own anything, and was telling others to give up all their shit too.

B. The money changing thing wasn't about money or lending or any of that, but most likely about the fact that jews who were coming to sacrifice animals at that time could buy one at the temple instead of bringing it all the way from home. The money changers were there to make sure people with random types of money could still buy goats and whatnot to sacrifice, and Jesus was probably the type of jew who thought it wasn't a real sacrifice unless you copped the animal back home and brought it all the way to Jerusalem (this also lines up with what we know about the Essenes and their beef with the "pharisees").

C. Jesus was probably trying to stage an overthrow of the temple leadership. He had 12 disciples, one for each of the tribes of Israel ready to go. He had a beef with these doods about jewish law, some Essene shit that is mostly really boring. If you get into all the things these niggas argue about it's really absurd. Like they both agreed that if you pour purified oil from a purified contained into an impure container, the oil became un-purified. But Essenes thought the impurity from the receiving vessel also traveled upstream, contaminated the rest of the purified oil and made the purified vessel impure as well.

D. Judas probably ratted out Jesus to the temple authorities. The official story makes no sense, because no one would have needed Judas to identify Jesus after the ruckus Jesus had just caused at the money tables. More likely, Judas revealed Jesus' intention to stage a coup.

E. "King of the Jews" was mostly likely a taunt. HJICs were making fun of this nigga for thinking he could get away with it. Of course the killt him in the most gruesome and humiliating way possible.

The resurrection and miracles were added later to sell him to jews. Maybe Jesus early on had a big cult following among jews that somehow roped in a bunch of gentiles. There is a line of thought that Jesus converted most of the non-satanic jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001192)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: cabal

I appreciate your thoroughness but this seems like a lot of details about a dead jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44003108)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 12:15 AM
Author: yes and

i dont think socrates existed either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001561)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 12:31 AM
Author: LAW AND ECONOMY RESTORED

His teachings are probably more important than his ethnic background, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44001620)



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Date: February 21st, 2022 9:10 AM
Author: cabal

Probably neither

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5033248&forum_id=2#44002811)




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