Thursday, December 23, 2021

NYT: Actually COVID is just the Flu, and it’s always been just the Flu

Date: December 23rd, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (🦆)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/briefing/covids-risk-to-older-adults.html

“Yes, you’ll get the virus,” Dr. James Hamblin wrote in his newsletter. “I think we all have a date with Covid at some point,” Helen Branswell, a health reporter at Stat News, said. “People are starting to give up,” my colleague Tara Parker-Pope told me.

It’s an understandable feeling given Omicron’s intense contagiousness, even among the vaccinated. A surge that began in the Northeast is now spreading to the Midwest, South and beyond

Some of the country’s new Covid acceptance — or fatalism — stems from frustration with the costs of pandemic precautions: the loss of learning from closed schools; the isolation from social distancing; the nationwide rise in blood pressure, drug overdoses, mental health problems and more.

And some of the new attitude stems from the reality that contracting Covid will not be a big deal for most people. Hospitalization rates for children and for vaccinated people under 50 years old remain minuscule.

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Three new studies released yesterday suggested that Omicron causes milder illness on average than earlier versions of the virus. “I would guess that the mortality risk with Omicron is much smaller” than with earlier variants, Dr. George Rutherford of the University of California, San Francisco, told me yesterday.

One reassuring comparison is to a normal seasonal flu. The average death rate among Americans over age 65 who contract the flu has ranged between 1 in 75 and 1 in 160 in recent years, according to the C.D.C. Pre-Omicron versions of Covid, in other words, seem to present risks of a similar order of magnitude to vaccinated people as a typical flu. Some years, a flu infection may be more dangerous.

With Omicron, “I think the risk is not super high for relatively healthy and boosted people in their 70s,” Janet Baseman, an epidemiologist at the University of Washington, told me. “I think it’s moderate at most.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4991967&forum_id=2#43662769)



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Date: December 23rd, 2021 11:22 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (🦆)

The average death rate among Americans over age 65 who contract the flu has ranged between 1 in 75 and 1 in 160 in recent years, according to the C.D.C. Pre-Omicron versions of Covid, in other words, seem to present risks of a similar order of magnitude to vaccinated people as a typical flu. Some years, a flu infection may be more dangerous.

The average death rate among Americans over age 65 who contract the flu has ranged between 1 in 75 and 1 in 160 in recent years, according to the C.D.C. Pre-Omicron versions of Covid, in other words, seem to present risks of a similar order of magnitude to vaccinated people as a typical flu. Some years, a flu infection may be more dangerous.

The average death rate among Americans over age 65 who contract the flu has ranged between 1 in 75 and 1 in 160 in recent years, according to the C.D.C. Pre-Omicron versions of Covid, in other words, seem to present risks of a similar order of magnitude to vaccinated people as a typical flu. Some years, a flu infection may be more dangerous.

The average death rate among Americans over age 65 who contract the flu has ranged between 1 in 75 and 1 in 160 in recent years, according to the C.D.C. Pre-Omicron versions of Covid, in other words, seem to present risks of a similar order of magnitude to vaccinated people as a typical flu. Some years, a flu infection may be more dangerous.

The average death rate among Americans over age 65 who contract the flu has ranged between 1 in 75 and 1 in 160 in recent years, according to the C.D.C. Pre-Omicron versions of Covid, in other words, seem to present risks of a similar order of magnitude to vaccinated people as a typical flu. Some years, a flu infection may be more dangerous.

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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:46 AM
Author: BEAVER

the whole thing is a joke but I dont know if omicron pozzage will prevent "cases" of whatever variant comes next. Arent originalmos and deltamos getting omicron?

I think the nefarious forces behind covid just released a virus that will constantly be infecting us forever and pwning delicate people to death. Neither vax nor natural immunity will last long or against variations.

Im sure some "bad" strain will emerge again before potus elections for vote-by-mail. And it will indeed drive up "cases".

This is now forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43642990)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:48 AM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

It is forever unless people say NO MORE and RISE THE FUCK UP against this insanity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643006)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: """"""""

The average American is a cowardly and obese sack of shit so that’s never happening

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643023)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:52 AM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

This is the problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643045)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 3:07 PM
Author: public restroom tp

No, it’s forever no matter what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43644425)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Mud

There is a reason why the media keeps talking about how vaccines “work by protesting against serious cases and death” but focuses only on cases for natural immunity. Natural T-cell immunity is really good protection against death. Only olds with no immune system left have to worry.

Alpha and deltamos get omicron but it’s like a weak cold.

Has there been any well documented case where a healthy person died of covid the second time around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643301)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:51 AM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah

I watched an interview this morning with the Surgeon General Indian guy on CBS. Focused nonstop on high transmissibility of Omicron (misleading without context on virulence) Then moved to the pitch for the booster. Claimed for those with booster most won’t get it at all and the rest will have mild symptoms (misleading given how Delta went). Then claimed for the unvaxxed Omicron is deadly, will cause a lot of hospitalizations and “a lot of people are going to die from this” (outright lie). Even Gail King who is super shitlib and a COVID hysteric pushed back and asked about breakthrough infection for those with the booster. The SG clearly couldn’t answer that well and just delivered a non sequitur talk off about how the booster is the best defense available and will dramatically reduce hospitalization and death (so tacitly retreated on the idea that it stops the spread at all).

These people know Omicron is less virulent. It’s plain as day. Their obfuscation is pure evil and there is an agenda behind it. There’s no other way to explain why the Surgeon General wouldn’t be aware of and focusing on the virulence statistics. And it’s not a wild conspiracy theory to say it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643035)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:54 AM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

These people are pure fucking evil

1. Like all viruses covid became MORE transmissible and LESS virulent. It was never dangerous to start with, Delta was far less dangerous and Omicron is less than 10% as virulent as Delta, it is literally the common fucking cold.

2. All the boosted losers are poz

3. 40% of all people are asymptomatic and no one under 65 is going to die of this unless they're already on death's door.

LOL at these fucking ghouls continuing to stoke fear based on NOTHING. We need a fucking RECKONING.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643060)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 11:57 AM
Author: DR. THUNDER (It's like adopting a 40 year old child)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643080)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:08 PM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:08 PM
Author: van morrison



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:09 PM
Author: ( : {| ]



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah

Almost forgot this part. One of the things he said during that talk off was something like: “No vaccine is perfect at stopping you from getting the disease.” You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643302)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:34 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

True! Most of the other ones offer 95+% protection for life from one dose, this is pretty much the same, right!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643357)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: chilmata

Diptheria: 97% effective

Tetanus: 100%

Polio: 99% with three doses

Measles: 97% effective

DTaP: 97%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43644024)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 2:11 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

covid: 6% after a few months. OH WHAT A VACCINE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43644029)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:29 PM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah

Here’s the video so others can see this official lie to the American public.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/surgeon-general-vivek-murthy-discusses-omicron-variant-and-how-to-combat-its-rapid-spread/#app

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643318)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:09 PM
Author: How to derive aut from ism

It's so fucking infuriating at this point that I can't stand it.

For lib politicians not in CA, IL, and NY, this is gonna have consequences. How can they possibly think it's in their interest to continue this.

Maybe Virginia will be interesting. New Governor next month. Hope he rescinds all mandates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643139)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:11 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

Isn't he an establishment cuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643158)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:15 PM
Author: How to derive aut from ism

There's no telling. This is his first time running for office. He made millions for a living before that. VA governor is a single term, anyway.

He does give off a cuck vibe sometimes, and he'll never go further in politics unless he makes his mark now. If he's smart, he'll do the right thing and swing for the seats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643193)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:30 PM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah

I think he’s enough of a cuck that if he were going off on his own he would be hesitant. But DeSantis has been showing him the way for a while now and that gives him some cover. If we get 90% toward DeSantis that would be a huge relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643333)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

which cash cow masters program taught you that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643340)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah

Run along little boy. The grownups who have something to lose from being locked down are talking here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643361)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

op is literally RSF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643364)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:37 PM
Author: QueenLaBEEFah

I’d be MAF if I had RSF’s lifestyle and libs were doing this to the world.

If I were a poor felon I’d probably prefer endless government gimmies instead of personal freedom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643375)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 3:03 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT



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Date: December 20th, 2021 3:05 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

yeah 47 consecutive hours arguing about his MPM election fraud must result from some really enviable circumstances

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43644411)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 3:08 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

LOL at this tone deaf meth addicted loser accusing anyone of spending too much time on xo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43644428)



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Date: December 21st, 2021 4:50 PM
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you're here constantly

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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

and you are literally a meth addicted 80 IQ pauper that lives in a dumpster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643487)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 12:35 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

Remember when you didn't finish high school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643362)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 1:37 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retired)

To be fair,

This works coming from like 90% of the bort, but from you it's just a "lmao shut the fuck up you stupid high school drop out meth addicted felon pauper faggot".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43643832)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 3:07 PM
Author: gibberish

Exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43644421)



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Date: December 20th, 2021 5:02 PM
Author: chilmata



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Date: December 21st, 2021 4:44 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

the party in power wants covid to get worse so it can be blamed (rsf)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43651861)



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Date: December 21st, 2021 4:47 PM
Author: van morrison

they obviously want it to be worse this isn't even a question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43651877)



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Date: December 21st, 2021 4:48 PM
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Date: December 21st, 2021 5:03 PM
Author: BEAVER

lol link to dems blaming biden, the cdc, fauci, the vax pharms?

they blame poor whites and unvaxxed and trump, logic be damned.

if I were advising biden Id tell him full steam ahead on this shit. no doubt others are.

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Date: December 21st, 2021 5:19 PM
Author: The JUDGE CONRAD JUGGERNAUT

COT DAMN you’re dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4989302&forum_id=2#43652081)


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Date: December 13th, 2021 2:32 PM
Author: Lavender vivacious library private investor

Student Loans

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki confirmed to reporters during a press briefing that the Biden administration won’t extend student loan relief — and the student loan payment pause will end January 31, 2022. (No, Biden won’t extend student loan relief again). Here are some highlights from her comments:

“In the coming weeks, we will release more details about our plans”

“We will engage directly with federal student loan borrowers to ensure they have the resources they need and are in the appropriate repayment plan.”

“We are still assessing the impact of the Omicron variant.”

“A smooth transition back into repayment is a high priority for the administration.”

“The Department of Education is already communicating with borrowers to help them to help to prepare for return to repayment on February 1.”

“41 million borrowers have benefitted from the extended student loan payment pause, but it expires February 1, so right now we’re just making a range of preparations.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2021/12/13/biden-administration-wont-extend-student-loan-relief-confirms-student-loan-payments-restart-february-1/?sh=4b8d730e290c&utm_campaign=socialflowForbesMainTwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ForbesMainTwitter

time 2 pay up, loancucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4984418&forum_id=2#43602462)



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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:35 PM
Author: Contagious Base

Fuck lazy deadbeats. The only better news would be elimination of IBR, PAYE, and all deferment/forbearance programs. Put everyone on the 10-year plan and make them pay. When you fill out a FAFSA and then accept a federal loan after it’s offered, the terms of the program are very well explained.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4984418&forum_id=2#43602483)



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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:39 PM
Author: supple tantric hissy fit

those terms include the ability to participate in any repayment plans for which you are eligible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4984418&forum_id=2#43602513)



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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:40 PM
Author: Avocado public bath



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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:42 PM
Author: Contagious Base

I agree. They’re subject to change of course and can become more or less generous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4984418&forum_id=2#43602534)



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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:55 PM
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Date: December 13th, 2021 3:00 PM
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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:36 PM
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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:38 PM
Author: Mewling jade institution indirect expression

Won't this help with inflation a bit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4984418&forum_id=2#43602500)



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Date: December 13th, 2021 2:39 PM
Author: garnet queen of the night mad-dog skullcap

I'm never paying this shit back. Hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4984418&forum_id=2#43602510)
  

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Everyone I know has Omicron. None of them are going to get reinfected with a new strain anytime soon

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